- Summarize 10 events that occur in this chapter
- How did Elie again help his father when they were on the train?
- Describe the scene Elie witnessed between the father and son.
- How many got out of the wagon? Where had they arrived?
- Explain how the father/son roles had been reversed in the case of Elie and his father?
- Imagine being in Elie's position or the fathers position during this chapter, Tell me what you are going through and how would you handle it, feel, react, behave, or be!!! ( 7 sentences)
Wednesday, March 7, 2007
section 7 blog 17
All these questions need to be in detail and complete. I would say try to write at 4 sentences for each question, use examples and add a reflection to each question!!
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Ten events that happened in this chapter are when they were put in the train and they first had all the dead people thrown out. They had stopped and they asked to throw out all the people who were dead. People didn’t hesitate to just throw these people out. Then also when the Germans started throwing bread into one of the wagons and they were fighting for the bread crumbs. Then there was when they threw the crumbs into their wagon. There was also that incident where Elie witnessed when the son decided he wanted to beat his father for the bread he had gotten, then he himself got killed. People decided they wanted to walk around so they didn’t get frozen and died like that. Then there was the incident when someone wanted to strangle Elie. He was sleeping and he felt being choked and he only had time to yell for his father. His father called his friend and they took the strangler off of Elie. Elie saved his father again when they were on the train because when they had stopped to get all the dead people off the train his father wouldn’t react. Elie had to slap him a couple times really hard before his father could wake up or just open his eyes. When he did open his eyes, there were two men ready to have taken him. Elie had witnessed the father had bread in his shirt, and his son just came and attacked him for the bread although the father had told him that he had bread for him. The son killed his father for the bread, and then they killed him, he had bread. A dozen people got out of the wagon. There had been hundreds. They had arrived at Buchenwald. His father also saved Elie’s life when they were strangling him. Since his father was too weak he also went for help. I cant really say how I would act, or be because I can say something now and act different under the pressure, maybe I would be terrified. Elie is 15 and he has already witnessed many things a person of 50 might have not yet experienced or never will. I might also have been a savage, trying to protect my loved ones and or siblings. I know for a fact, not knowing for how long, but I know that for a while I would beat or probably kill someone to keep my family alive, and I wouldn’t think about ever killing them.
While on this train to Buchenwald, Elie had to overcome hard tactics. Elie was on the train with tons of scavengers, munching on crumbs of bread. I guess when you haven't ate in a long while, you turn into a vulture; savage. You gotta do what must be done to stay alive. Elie’s father was wrapped in his blanket, and for a second he thought he was dead. He called him, but there was no answer. The SS soldiers told everyone to throw the dead out. The living rejoiced because there would be more room. Two men came up by Elie’s father, but Elie threw his body on top. Elie slapped his pops to wake him up, but no answer. Elie then slap him, and his fathers eyelids moved slightly. The boy that killed his own pops for pieces bread is straight triflin’. He practically smashed on his father, that’s a serious appetite!. A hundred living got into the wagon, and a dozen of them got out. If it was me, and the bread was disappearing in the quickness, ill probably bust a Hannibal lecture. Just fine the finest lookin lady and munch on a thigh.
One was when were fight like animals for the food. The Jews wanted to kill the father. The father was falling a sleep. The Jews were attacking the slaves. The kid killed his own father. Lots of them are hungry. The slaves that are hungry they are fight to get any food that they can get. there think of killing people and eating them. cant really say how I would act, or be because I can say something now and act different under the pressure, maybe I would be terrified. Elie is 15 and he has already witnessed many things a person of 50 might have not yet experienced or never will. The SS soldiers told everyone to throw the dead out. The living rejoiced because there would be more room. Then there was when they threw the crumbs into their wagon. There was also that incident where Elie witnessed when the son decided he wanted to beat his father for the bread he had gotten, then he himself got killed.
One was when were fight like animals for the food. The Jews wanted to kill the father. The father was falling a sleep. The Jews were attacking the slaves. The kid killed his own father. Lots of them are hungry. The slaves that are hungry they are fight to get any food that they can get. there think of killing people and eating them. cant really say how I would act, or be because I can say something now and act different under the pressure, maybe I would be terrified. Elie is 15 and he has already witnessed many things a person of 50 might have not yet experienced or never will. The SS soldiers told everyone to throw the dead out. The living rejoiced because there would be more room. Then there was when they threw the crumbs into their wagon. There was also that incident where Elie witnessed when the son decided he wanted to beat his father for the bread he had gotten, then he himself got killed.
There was a lot of movement going on in the last chapter that was had just read. A lot of death and violence. There was a lot o emotions going on with the characters that are in the book. A lot of people were just thinking that there was no difference between the living and the dead. Cause either way they felt empty. A lot of them felt that there wasn’t any reason to live.
Elie had helped his father while they were on the train again. By waking him up, when volunteers were throwing dead bodies of the train. He had woke him up when they had thought that he was dead, they were trying to throw him off cause he looked as he was dead, pale, and cold. when they had thought that he was dead. Elie’s father was sleeping not dead, but very weak.
Elie had witnessed a scene in Aden. They were on a boat and there was a parisienne the boat throwing money, cause she enjoys giving charity. There would be battle that broke out between the men. They would act like they were come kind of wild beast. They would be fighting over bread. With hatred in there eyes they would kill just for piece of bread, cause they were hungry. Something that had stuck out to Elie the most was when an old man was coming towards another young man as himself. Elie was only 15 at this time. And the old man who happened to be his father had held out a piece of bread to him and offered it to him and the son jump to him and beat his own father. As the son was beating his father, the father had quoted “ Meir. Meir, my boy! Don’t you recognize me? I’m your father… you’re hurting me… you’re killing your father! I’ve got some bread… for you too… for you too…” The son had killed his own father so he can get the bread. He then after was down beating his father to death searched him so he can get that one piece of bread.
There were a hundred of them that had gotten into the wagon. There was only a dozen that had gotten out of the wagon. They had arrived at Buchenwald.
They flip the script with the father son role. The son is now the one that is telling the father to be strong and to fight death. Now instead of the father telling the son. The son is telling the father.
If I was in the position of Elie, I don’t think I would react to it very well. I don’t handle death or someone dying very well. I’m a very sensitive person. I think I would probably freak out or something.
The guys pressed up against each other to warm up. Their spirit was gone. Their head was like in a whirl pool. Some light came up and they seen a lot of dead bodies piled up on top of each other. All of a sudden the train they were on stopped. It stopped in the middle of a field. They started to throw the dead people and the people that looked dead out of the train. They tried to throw Elie’s dad out the train. Elie stopped them and tried to wake his dad up. Finally he did.
He first seen the guys throwing the bodies out of the train. Then he seen the guys say look here's one and he ran to his dad and tried to wake him. He slapped him as hard as he could and his eyes woke opened little bit.
First the dad was like hey son I got some food. Because the dad saved some food for him. But the son killed him for his food. Because I guess the son was tripping out. There was a dozen people that got out of the wagon. There was hundreds. They had arrived at Buchenwald. His father saved Elie’s life when they were strangling him. I wouldn’t care probably or maybe I would. Maybe I would be scared because it is my dad. At that Age Elie was only 15 and that mite have not been big to anything that he has already witnessed.
While on this train to Buchenwald, Elie had to overcome hard tactics. Elie was on the train with tons of scavengers, munching on crumbs of bread. I guess when you haven't ate in a long while, you turn into a vulture; savage. You gotta do what must be done to stay alive. Elie’s father was wrapped in his blanket, and for a second he thought he was dead. He called him, but there was no answer. The SS soldiers told everyone to throw the dead out. The living rejoiced because there would be more room. Two men came up by Elie’s father, but Elie threw his body on top. Elie slapped his pops to wake him up, but no answer. When Elie then slapped him, and his fathers eyelids moved slightly. The boy that killed his own pops for pieces bread is straight triflin’. He practically smashed on his father, that’s a serious appetite!. A hundred living got into the wagon, and a dozen of them got out. If it was me, and the bread was disappearing in the quickness, ill probably bust a Hannibal lector. Just find the finest lookin lady and munch on a thigh. Why not?
Some of the Jewish people are in a train. The weak and the dead are being thrown off the train. One of the SS soldiers goes up to Ellies dad and says he is ging to throw him off the train. Ellie tells the soldiers that he is not dead and starts to rub his dads hands and he starts breathing and the soldier leaves him alone. When they got off, Hundreds of Jews got on to a wagon and about a dozen didn’t, among those was Ellie and his father, they had arrived at Buchenwald.
Ellie helped his father by waking him up so the SS wouldn’t throw him off the train. I think if Ellie wouldn’t of woken him up the father would of died. The father is really weak and now the boys taking care of the dad because the dad is to weak.It used to be the other way around.What Ellie witnessed was really sad. He saw a man who had bread and was hiding it. Then this one guy comes and starts beating that guy for his food. The man said “its me, its your father, don’t you recognize me”. It turns out that the guy beating the man was his own son. He cared more about food than about his own father.
About a hundred of the Jews had got into the wagon, and about a dozen got out of the wagon. Among those who got off were Ellie and his father. When they had gotten out they had arrived at Buchenwald. Those who couldn’t get off the train were just left there to die.
The roles had been reversed big time. A the beginning the father used to keep Ellie alive. He used to tell him to stay awake and to keep going and to never give up. Now the dad is to weak to do those things anymore. Now the boy takes care of his father like the time he ran after him at the selection.If I were in Ellie’s position it would not be fun. I probably couldn’t stand it. But I would try my hardest to take care of my father. I would do anything possible to keep him and me alive. I would even give him a piece of my bread to keep him alive longer. I care a lot about my father. I would also eat a lot of snow because it’s the same thing as water.
In this chapter, Elie is in a train carriage with 100 prisoners. They are all crammed up and cold. Many of them are dying in their sleep. Others are killing each other. There is no food. They are all starving for 10 days. The only thing they can eat is the snow. When they finally took a stop, the officers opened the doors only to have the prisoners throw out all the dead bodies. Elie’s father was on the verge of dying, he was practically dead. Everyone was happy to throw out the dead bodies, because that meant more room to move around. When people surrounded Elie’s father to throw him out, Elie jumped on top of his father and told them that he’s alive and kept hitting his dad to wake him up. Elie’s father finally woke up and was barely able to breath. Elie saved his father once again. Many of the 100 people in that carriage were thrown out into the snow and left behind. By the time they reached their destination, there was only about a dozen people left. People that were on the outside of the train were throwing bread into the train just to watch everyone fight over the food and kill one another. A man is found having bread in his shirt, his own son attacks him and tries to take his bread. The man tries to stop his son from attacking him and tries to tell him that he saved bread for him, but his son would not listen and kept attacking his father. Other men jumped on top of the two of them and both of them ended up dead. Elie was only 15 when he saw this. They arrived in Buchenwald. Elie’s father is too weak to go on, and now Elie is basically taking care of his dad. He is trying his best to keep his father alive. In the beginning, Elie’s father was doing whatever he could to help Elie, but Elie’s father is getting too old and can barely move on. Ellie is determined to help his father anyway he can.
If I were Elie, I would try my best to stay away from any fights because I would not want to waste any type of energy that will prevent me from staying alive. All the starving, and uncomfortableness, would make me go crazy, but I would try my hardest to stay focused and not get myself killed. I would feel really good if my father were there with me the whole time, and if my father died I would probably give up on everything.
Some of the events that happened in this chapter is when they had stopped and they asked to throw out all the people who were dead. People didn’t hesitate to just throw these people out. Then also when the Germans started throwing bread into one of the wagons and they were fighting for the bread. Then there was when they threw the crumbs into their wagon. People decided they wanted to walk around so they didn’t get frozen and died like that. Then there was the incident when someone wanted to strangle Elie. He was sleeping and he felt being choked and he only had time to yell for his father. His father called his friend and they took the strangler off of Elie. Elie saved his father again when they were on the train because when they had stopped to get all the dead people off the train his father wouldn’t react. The son killed his father for the bread, and then they killed him, he had bread. A dozen people got out of the wagon. There had been hundreds. Elie slapped his father to wake him up, but got no answer. Then Elie slapped him, and his fathers eyelids moved a little. The boy killed his own father to be able to eat. A hundred living got into the wagon, and a dozen of them got out. The SS soldiers told everyone to throw the dead out. The living rejoiced because there would be more room. Then there was when they threw the crumbs into their wagon. There was also that incident where Elie witnessed when the son decided he wanted to beat his father for the bread he had gotten, then he himself got killed.
Ten events that append in this chapter are…
Elie was getting transported to another camp.
Many Jews died from starvation and cold
After wile the train would stop to unload there dead
Trying to survive the ride to Buchenwald
People tossed bread to them like animals and watched them kill each other for it
Elie gets choked and some guy takes the other guy of him.
The same guy who helps him stays behind and dies
Eile and his father make it.
Elie sees his dad very week almost looks dead. He actually thought he was dead for a second. But he tried to not think of that possibility and he slaps him. He slaps him again and he opened his eye and the ss dose not thro throw him out. This is how he saves him.
When the Germans throw bread crumb the starved people start to fight for it and go to any means to get it. He sees people fighting and biting and scratching each other. The he sees a man crawling and grabbing his chest and he quickly puts that piece of bread in his mouth then his own son beats him for the bread even though that he was going give him the bread anyhow.
On the devastating journey to Buchenwald there were one hundred. The du to cold starvation and even violence among them 88 die. Only 12 are left including elie and his dad.
The father son relation that elie has with his father have changed. Now instead of the dad taking care of elie it is elie watching out for his father. For example when he falls asleep and is about to be thrown out he wakes his father up. This is one very good example of how the roles have reversed.
If I was in elies situation I would do a lot of things different. Like for food I would have eaten some of the dead body's .just a bit or two. Also to keep worm I would have done that Eskimo technique to get naked and cover each other to make the body heat worm us quicker. I would have waited till the men were done fighting each other and then taken the bread . I would not fight my own father though. Maybe I would have used the knife that elies dad gave to him to get all the bread. And also I would have not let my self be choked I would have fought that guy like a savage Saxon and afterward take a bite out of him of two.
Eli thought that his father had died because he was calling him and he did not answer. He thought for a moment that why trying to live more if his father was not with him no more but he did not wanted to give up so he was trying to wake up his father so he won’t died. One of the SS soldiers was thronging all the died people that was in that place where Eli and his father was and the SS thought that Eli father was died but Eli prove that he wasn’t. They went to a train and a guy was trying to strangling him. Eli help his father again but wake him up because he was not moving again so he was trying that the SS wont through him with all the died people. He saw when the son had killed his father by choking him when they were all on the in that wagon. Some got out of the wagon some fu. I think if I had been in Eli position of being my father their almost died I will get so much scared and try to wake up my father so the SS wont trough him with the rest of the people. Me and my father watching some people died by accident because they are all scotch an that wagon I will be scare of watching all that people died in front of me really I wont know what I could do.
1.In the last section of Night that was read today, Elie and his father along with the other Buna prisoners have been place in a train that is heading to another concentration Camp. Many have already been lost and others are on the brink of losing their lives. In one stop the disposed of the dead and Elie’s father was one of the ones who was about to be thrown of the train but Elie managed to awake his father just before he was thrown off the train. Then in a later incident on the train some people threw bread onto the train and a fight to the death broke out for what little crumbs they could get their hands on. The fighting pitted several people against each other, Elie decided that he would not fight for bread but he did give an example on how they fought mercilessly for the dread as he describes on page 106, as a son beats his father to death over a piece of bread that never touches his lips because another person killed him before he could eat it. In an shocking attack someone was chocking Elie for no apparent reason his father and Meir Katz pulled the attacker off. This was how it must have been at that time confusion grief all boggling the mind. Death meant nothing they were all dead there was no point to mourn the recently deceased because they were already gone. An example of this un attachment to life was displayed in this section on page 107 when a Meir Katz starts to mourn over his dead son and looses his will to live. This un attachment could be seen as a survival method, to keep going when you’ve lost the one that meant the world to you, is surviving at its peak.
2. Elie was placed on a train and at one of the train stops they were disposing of the dead, “The living rejoiced” said the book because they were so horribly cramped that it was a relief to dispose of the dead bodies. One of the people that were going to be thrown of the train was Elie father who was sleeping very deeply and appeared dead. Elie jumped on his father to stop them from taking him he slapped and jerked his father until he awoke and they were just about to take him. This shows me that Elie still holds on to the hope that him and his father will come out of this alive. It also proves that Elie’s dependency on his father is still great.
3. On the train spectators have thrown pieces of bread to the enclosed Buna prisoners this starts a fight that pits several of the people against one another. In one incident on the train an old man has managed to sneak away from the brawl with a piece of bread only to enjoy it for a short time as one of the people emerge to jump him and take the bread. He rains down blows on the old man and during the struggle the old man sys to his attacker “Meir. Meir, my boy! Don’t you recognize me? I’m your father…” this does not restrain him from taking the bread and leaving his father dead. The sons victory is short lived as the bread is taken from him before he can even enjoy it and he too is beat to death his body is left along side his father. This once again proves the un attachment necessary to survive under these harsh conditions. The fact that it was his father did not seem to cause remorse he more than likely lost his father in his mind long ago there for the man he was beating meant and was nothing to him.
4.On arrival of the train only a dozen of the hundred that entered have emerged. Many died from the cold and the fight that broke out on the train. The trip to the next concentration camp had been the most murderess. Their arrival at Buchenwald to Elie meant more safety than on the train and it is easy to think why they had equally distributed food. Food, nourishment meant surviving and surviving with the one thing they had left their own life. They were unattached from family and death all to survive just to have one more day in hope that the next day would present liberation. May did give up because the they saw no point in going on either because they couldn’t see themselves living to see a liberation of the camp or because the loss of a love one had been to much to bear.
5. Once again SURVIVAL, UNATTACHMENT have brought life no meaning , no purpose and death as common. The father son relationship is pivotal to Elie’s story and survival because he was separated from his Mother and sister leaving him with just his father, his last shred of hope lies along side him. But Many have abandoned their fathers as a dispensable thing that would help them survive. One example is the son who left the his father as he began to slow in pace and another when the son beats his father for a piece of bread. The fathers have yet to do something over the edge in this book revealing some paternal restraint that bonds them with their son and seize to do them any wrong, but I am fairly certain that the father has come against his son as well. All this is the opposite of the effect that was first present at the entrance of the camp. T first it was the sons seeking comfort from the father and now the sons have lost their dependency and attachment to the fathers allowing them to do what ever is necessary to survive. This is a tragic fate but it is what they needed to do to survive it is beyond all means wrong but somehow I feel that their suffering has made this forgivable.
6. If I were the father I would have given up if I had lost my son and as the son dune the same if I had lost my father. Bur like always there are questions presented in my head that question the section that before this one . Could the time that I spent on the long trail and in the train harden my heart as those many other who have abandon their family to survive? Would I loose the shred of humanity that I have left and betray them as an animal would fighting over the corpse of another animal? Again I go with the noble answer of no but still have doubts that it be the same result in the actual face of the problem. I hope to never be in that place but if I had to answered yes to the questions asked I would die for the bread not for the family but for myself..
WS-->NC--> kill some snitch ass busters.........die in hell, trickkk!
At the beginning of the chapter they were put into cattle wagons. They were one on top of the other. They pressed up against each other to keep the cold out. Eli was thinking that if he died today or tomorrow it wouldn’t make a difference. He could see a guy with his eyes open and frozen snow. He new that there were many people dead. He then looked at his father near him wrapped up in a blanket. He called for him there was no answer he didn’t even move. Then the train stopped. The SS officers stopped the cars to throw away all the dead people. Then Eli saw them walking up to his father. Eli was suddenly got up and covered his dad. He told them he was asleep. Then he moved to slap him and his father slowly opened his eyes. Then the SS threw out all the bodies. They were given no food. In this chapter Eli had to see how a guy hit his own father for a piece of bread. His father had saved his son some piece anyways. The father was telling his son not to hurt them that he had saved some bread for him but his son kept on hurting him. In the chapter they were sent to Buchenwald. The drive over there was very bad. It was very windy and cold. They reached there late at night. The guards unloaded them. Only the ones that could walk would be going the others would stay there. One hundred of them were the ones to get in the train and only a dozen of them got out. The Father and son role has changed. Eli is the one mostly looking out for his dad. His father is the one that now needs his help. Eli’s father is the one that needs the food now. He is so old now. He is weak. If I was in Eli’s position the only thing that would be going thru my mind would be a way to take care of my dad or who ever I was with. I would be thinking of a way I can get food for us. How I can do so he will be warm and let him now that I am there for him to the end. I think that I wouldn’t go off on him like other people. That is the only thing and person I have left that I now cares about me deeply so there is no reason to mistreat him. I would cherish him even more for the simple fact that he hadn't given up because of me . The fact that he kept on going to make sure I was alright. I would take care of him even more.
This chapter starts out with Eli and his dad leaving on a train. The train has some death and the people are tired of being in the train with the death. The ss soldiers tell the people to throw out body's. I think this part is sad because there are some son that get to see their fathers get thrown. I mean I know that would be in my mined for a long time and I would feel really bad. This chapter also shows how eli no matter what cares about his father a lot because he protects him. I think that it shows how strong their relationship are and how no matter what he will always love his dad. I think that if I was in eli’s position I would do the same thing because I wouldn’t want to see no one throw my father outside a train even if he is death. At first when we read the part when his father was pale and looked death I thought that his father was really death and that was when I was thinking that Eli was going to give up and quite. This chapter is alos sad because it shows how a guys son beats his dad up for food. I think that even if I was so hungry I wouldn’t beat my father up for food and then let him die.
Summarize 10 events that occur in this chapter
-this was said at the beginning of the chapter, indifference deadened the spirit. Here or else where what difference did it make? To die today or tomorrow, or later?
-His father was huddled near him, wrapped in his blanket that kind of refer to protect him.
-his mind was invaded suddenly by his realization there was no more reason to live, no more reason to struggle. (had lot there hope and faith)
-he thought that his father was already death when the ss guys came to take him away to the collar.
His dad was moving weakly he wasn’t dead yet.
There were hundred of naked people thrown outside the wagon they were thrown in the cold ice.
-the people that would survive had to lived on the snow with no food they had to make there own way out.
They would fight because of starvation when the workingmen would eat and give them bread they would fight each other for a piece of crumbs.
How did Elie again help his father when they were on the train? He help him by trying to put him in the wagon.
Describe the scene Elie witnessed between the father and son. The son didn’t realize that he killed his won father for some food that he was craving for.
How many got out of the wagon? Where had they arrived? They arrived at Buchenwald.
Imagine being in Elie's position or the fathers position during this chapter, Tell me what you are going through and how would you handle it, feel, react, behave, or be!!!
The way that I would handle the situation is by avoiding from happening to me. I think that I would had never done something like the guy did to his own father by not recognizing him.
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