Sunday, March 4, 2007

blog 15 secion 6



  1. Summarize the major events in this section. ( at least 8 complete sentences)
  2. Tell me 2 things that you admire or disgust about any of the characters in the chapter and why? ( 5 sentences)
  3. Rabbi Eliahou’s son abandons him during the death march from Buna,The rabbi is looking for his son: throughout their ordeal in the concentration camps, father and son have protected and supported each other. Eliezer falsely tells Rabbi Eliahou he has not seen the son, yet, during the run, Eliezer saw the son abandon his father, running ahead when it seemed Rabbi Eliahou would not survive. Eliezer prays that he will never do what Rabbi Eliahou’s son did. This illustrating the depth of the brutality to which people are capable of sinking when they are mistreated for too long, these incidents reflect on another, They examine the way that the Holocaust tests father-son bonds.
    What do you think of these unfortunate events? how do you feel about it? Do you think these incidents effects Elie's relationship towards his father? Why do you think that his son abandoned his father? What would you have done is this event, where you and a loved one had to run 42 miles or you will be shot ?Would you take care of yourself or would you do whatever it takes to survive together? Would you also fight over food with your loved one?( 8 sentences)

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

People were just running. All the Jews that had been in Elie’s group got to be sent to another place, they got the chance to run and go away. They had to run for 42 miles without stopping or taking a break or anything. It was in the middle of the night and they didn’t get to eat, they had little clothing and some people didn’t even have shoes. People who would get or stay behind would have to get shot. Some people who would not be fast enough or would just stop to take a breath would just simply get trampled. They got stepped on and nobody would help them. Two things that I admire about the people who were running would be the wits to keep on running. Maybe I would have given up because I wouldn’t have the energy to keep on running. Maybe it would be different and I would keep on running but I cant say that because I have never been in that position. Another thing that I admire about the people is how they are just so emotionally strong. They can just keep their faith strong, or maybe not, but they can keep going, staying strong inside. What I disgust is that, how could people just go around killing people and just be so cool about it. I wonder what they felt, how could they sleep at night? Another thing I disgust is how they would or didn’t feed the Jews for three days. They just starved and slept one on top of the other. It must have been terrible and they must have hated it. I feel terrible about this because it would not be right to just try to abandon my father or mother for my life. It is hard for people to see how its their blood and it’s a part of them. I also feel sad for the Rabbi because he must have been suffering for what his son did. I don’t think elie would do this to his father because his father and him are very close, their bond could be unbreakable. I think Rabbi’s son abandoned him because he preferred his life over his fathers. I would have stayed with my mother and family no matter what. I would have fought over food to give to my siblings. I would have probably starved myself just to give my food to them.

Anonymous said...

People had to run 42 miles in the cold snow. Elie and his father are looking out for each other. If you slowed down you would get shot. Elie kept on pushing himself, even with his foot in bad condition. I thought that the way they were forced to run 42 miles was unbelievable, especially in the snow. I thought that these unfortunate events were dangerously extreme. I think that the relationship between father and son can not be broken. They still look out for one another. I think I would have been dead since the beginning of the book. I would have been shot up for stepping out of line, trying to escape. If I was stuck with a love one, I would do anything to keep him/her alive especially it was a youngin’. I would never fight over grub, ILL probably starve to death before any of that drama.

Anonymous said...

That they had to run a lot and they where running for a long time with out stopping. They were running for 42 miles non stop. The father and him was in the line together. They were thinking what was going to happen to them. They were running to getter in a group. There was some one bigger them it was the god. When they got on top of the hill they must of goting tried and they must of gotting save by a god. Some must of struggled and die because of the weather they were running throw. The weather was snowing. They did not had have any clothing that’s way I think that some of them must of pass away. They had only bread and coffee to drink and eat . They did not have much to give out to eat or they had to share with every body that was there and it was hard for them because they had so many people. It was so small were it can only hold a little people and they cramed they.

Anonymous said...

Elie, his father, and the other prisoners are running about 42 miles to another camp. The heavy snow was slowing them down. Elie’s father is really close to death. They comfort each other and try to keep each other awake so they will not die in their sleep. They get to the new camp, selection is being brought up. Elie’s father is sent to the left, to die. Elie starts a confusion and tries to go to the left so his father does not leave him. Elie’s father goes to the right, out of confusion and the commotion. Elie’s father is saved once again. When Elie was running, next to the rabbi’s son, he noticed that he was running kind of fast. At the end, in the resting point. The rabbi’s father was looking for his son. I hated the fact that the rabbi’s son would try to lose his father purposely to keep himself alive. The rabbi was looking his strength and moving to the back of the pack, and his son would gain himself to the front. He does not realize that his son was trying to lose him. This is upsetting because it’s the opposite of Elie and his father. They both try their best to keep each other alive. I feel bad that all of this is happening. You can see the relationship changes between people throughout struggles. I feel bad that people can hate the ones they loved, the family members they were so close to, forgetting about each other just to think about themselves. I believe that all these incidents make Elie and his father stronger. I also believe that all these struggles make their relationship stronger. I believe that the Rabbi’s son abandoned his father because he feels as though his father will not make it, and does not want to be killed trying to slow down with his father. He is probably going crazy at the fact that he has to watch his father struggle, so he kind of let his father go to the back by himself, so he could pretend that he did not know what was happening. I think he didn’t want to see his father die. If I had to run 42 miles, I probably wouldn’t make it at all. I’d try my best to do what I can and make it so we can help one another. I would try my best to survive together. I don’t like fighting over food. But if I see that the one I loved was really starving and needed it more than I did, I would give her the food.

Anonymous said...

I think that the events that had happened in the chapter that we had just read were very unfortunate, but possible. I really don’t know how I feel about it. But if it really came down to it, im a very sympathetic person, and I feel like sorry for what they had to go through back in the days. I mean it’s so sad, and depressing. I think Elie and his father have a relationship that is very special. It’s obvious that they mean a lot to each other and that they care about each other and are there to support on another. The incidents that they have went through has definitely effected there relationship, I believe that everything that they have went thought just makes them that much stronger and it brings them together even more. They stick by each others sides no matter what happens through thick and thin. I think that the son had abandoned his father when he did cause of the fact that he didn’t think that he would make it, and that his father is soon going to die and that he didn’t want to see that happen for his own sake cause he wont be able to go on with out him if he sees his father dying he might want to stay there with him, so instead of watching him suffer he left him. I think that if I was ever put in this position with one of my loved ones I would definitely keep on pushing to do my hardest and as well as supporting my loved one and making sure I am there for her. I would probably do whatever it takes for me to survive along with my loved one, because all in the end by the time that were at our destination we can always go see a doctor or something. When it comes down to food I don’t think I would fight over food I’d split it half and half or just give her the bigger portion of it.

Anonymous said...

There was an icy cold and deadly wind. But the people marched. They had to start walking or running faster because the soldiers made them. The SS made them pick up the pace and they did as they were told. While in the process they were talked to like dogs. They were no longer marching they were running now. The SS had orders to shoot any one who could not hang. So that’s what they did. i really think that Elie has heart because this is his story. To go through that stuff is not easy. He went through it and he has to live with the memory. If there's anyone who I could admire in this story out of the characters it would be him. I think that these events are dirty because why would you want a father and son to fight over food, but then again they didn’t care. I think that he abandoned his father so he wont have to do anything to him. I would do whatever it takes to survive no matter what. From where I come from in the neighborhood I was brought up in and the way I was raised to not care about things and about what anyone else is going through I probably fight with a loved on for food. Except if it were a female loved one. My older brother and I are crazy in the head. We would probably be like that with each other. I know right from wrong and stuff like that, but I’m just like that. Like a savage.

Anonymous said...

In the beginning of the chapter they had left the Auschwitz camp. They were running to another camp. They were hungry and they ran for forty two miles. They didn’t stop, not even once. Who ever stopped the SS soldiers would kill them. Many of them would just collapse because their bodies could no longer handle so much stress. He tried to keep running with his leg all injured after a while he didn’t even feel his leg. At one point Eli wanted to give up but then he saw his father. He knew he had to stay alive for him. One thing that I admire about Eli is the fact that he manages to keep running even though his leg is injured. I also admire that every time he has to make a decision he thinks about how it would affect his dad. He keeps on going for his dad. I admire that all the bad things they have gone thru doesn’t destroy their relationship but makes it stronger. I think that the fact that the Rabbi’s son would leave him behind is very hurtful. I think that it would be the worst thing that a son could do to his father. Just leave him there to die. I would think that he would stay with him thru thick and thin. I think the fact that Eli is seeing all of this just makes the bond between him and his father that much stronger. I think that the son abandon him because he thought that if his father was to old and would not be able to make it and he didn’t want to go down with him. He wanted to live even if it meant leavening his dad behind. I would have kept running as fast as I could and make sure that who ever I was with was right next to me. I would do my hardest to keep us safe. I would mostly make sure they would stay alive. I would probably see if they were weaker than me and if they were I would give them some of my food. Or I would look for extra food to give to them. I would definitely take care of them and do everything I could so they would stay alive.

Anonymous said...

The main events of this section are the following.
Elile and his father are moved by foot to another camp
Trying to survive the 42 miles of non stop running with his father
Getting to the rest point they were crammed inside a barracks
Surviving the overloaded barracks for the night. Elie had difficulties breathing and there were decaying body's every were.
Surviving the starved second night in the snow with just snow and bread
The deaths of the violin kid and the death of the rabbis son.
The experience of changing camps under extreme conditions.

I admire elies dad the most. Elies dad has been able to survive despite his old age and physical condition. Aside from that he still manages to have the strength to look out for his son. He even sacrifices him self for him by giving him food when he is starved so I say I admire him.
I think that these un fortunate events are inhuman. They are cruel and very wrong. Nobody has the right to do something like that to someone. These task will test there courage and there will to live. these incident will affect his relation ship with his father. I think it will make them not act for them self but make there bond even stronger these events have only encouraged them to live by one another. I think that the rabbis son abandoned his father because he thought he had a better chance of surviving this way. At this point in his mind it was everyone for themselves …and he did not make it alone…in this event I would have not abandoned my comrades especially not my father but I would just chant, so that I could get the strength to go on and get my mind of the pain. as of food I would try to establish communism I in a way, so that every one can work together to survive and get equally treated in this time of need…. The lone wolf dies, the hermit dies but those who stand together live..

Anonymous said...

All the Jewish people are being sent to a different concentration camp in Gleiwtz. They have to run to this camp nonstop at night. Those people who couldn’t keep up and keep running, were shot and killed. When they stopped they were all so tired. They had ran 42 miles nonstop. The dad told Ellie to go with him to this one shed, so they go and the boy falls asleep and his dad wakes him up and tells him he shouldn’t be sleeping in the snow because he might not wake up. They finally get to the new camp and on the way in the gates the boy falls on the floor and people start piling up on him and he can barely breath but he makes it out. The SS makes another selection and they sent the weak ones to the left and the ones ho can walk alright and still can work are sent to the right. They sent his dad to the left and the boy goes and runs after him. He confuses the SS soldiers And they tell him to come back and he brings his dad along with him and they both survive.
I admire the boy’s unselfishness when he doesn’t give up and die and thinks about his father. He knows his dad loves him and needs him. The person I got disgusted by was the rabbi’s son. He left his father behind so he can have more chances of survival. The rabbi even went searching for him but didn’t find him.
I think it is sad what the son did to his father the rabbi. I would never do that to a loved one or to a friend. I would take care of both of us. I would never fight for food with a loved on either. I know they said that the holocaust changed everybody but I still would never do that. I would fight to the end to make sure that both of us would survive. I also think that what Ellie and his father saw with the rabbi will only make their relationship stronger. I also liked how the boy prayed to god to give him the strength so he wouldn’t do that to his father.

Anonymous said...

In this chapter they had to run a lot. The soldiers threaten to shoot if they stopped. They ran about 45 miles non stop. They chilled in a shed full of snow. Elie’s foot pain grew numb due to the low temperature of the snow. He explains how he had no energy to think about anything yet alone do anything. He wants to give up but see’s that his father hasn’t so he continues. Something's I like about Elie is his attitude. Another thing is his point of view on things. His attitude is constantly changing and that’s the way I act/think. He doesn’t really care about things other than things that that do matter. I don’t think that’s right to make people run. I really don’t know what I’d do if someone was chasing me with a gun. I’d rather just stop running and get shot so that I wouldn’t have to fight with family for food.

Anonymous said...

I think that this chapter had both good and bad things. The chapter starts out with Eli and the rest of the people running for their life's and who ever stops running gets shot. Eli has his leg hurt so this is very painful to him. I think that this is one of the saddest things that happened in this chapter because they mad them run for 42 miles non stop. Imagine how that feels to run with a hurt leg in the snow for 45 miles that is painful. In this chapter one of Eli’s friend couldn’t take it anymore and he gave up for a stomach ache and Eli tries to convince him not to stop but he still gives up. Another event that happened in this chapter was that Eli and the rest of the people are moving to another camp they are tired and want to sleep. The thing is that it is cold and the temperature could kill you in your sleep so you may never wake up. So what Eli and his dad do is that one of them sleeps and the other one wakes him up so he wont die and so they take turns. I think that it is nice that him and his dad are doing this it shows that they really care about each other. One of the good things that happened in this chapter is that Eli and his dad get split up because his dad is too weak and he is getting send to the crematory and so Eli goes after his dad and make a commotion but his dad gets save but others die. After this they get transferred for the last time in this chapter and just wait to see what happened.

Anonymous said...

One of the things that happen in this chapter was that the SS made the Jews run in the ice and cold night. The SS had order to shot the Jews that will stop while they were running and the SS were also running with them but when they will get tired they will take turns with others SS. While they were running some Jews were so tired that they will stay behind and they will died a lot of them died because they run 42 miles. Eli thought for a second of letting him self died but his father make him try to not let him self died because Eli was the support for his father. When they finally got to the little house they were so tired that they will wanted to sleep even in the ice Eli and his father help each other to still be alive. When I was reading that part when it says that they were in top of each other I thought that, that was nasty but I felt bad for them because they were suffering a lot shushing each other in their. I also admired them running a lot of miles and not stopping I think I will not marked. When I see the father and son get spared from each other I think that might feel so bad because that is their only support of living. I think these events make Eli and his father stay more close. He abandoned his father because he was to tired of all the things. I think I will be scared if I have to run all those miles or else I’ll get shot. But I think they will shot me because I’ll will not make it. I think I will try to survived.

Anonymous said...

What do you think of these unfortunate events? how do you feel about it? The way that I feel about what has happen is something that is sad because If I was in there spot I think that I wouldn’t be able to survive running 42 hours.
Do you think these incidents effects Elie's relationship towards his father? yes, they do because all what they are obligated to do is making them to be apart each other.
Why do you think that his son abandoned his father? I think that he was smart to abandoned his father so that the ss could think that he don’t care and this way they wont separate them.
What would you have done is this event, where you and a loved one had to run 42 miles or you will be shot ?i think that I wouldn’t be able to survive but would give encourage to each other so that we wont give up.
Would you take care of yourself or would you do whatever it takes to survive together? Would you also fight over food with your loved one?( 8 sentences) what I would do is do whatever it takes all of us has a group because we are all going threw the same thing and we are all asking to be stop and eat something. But I would feel better if someone that is related to me would be there with me because we are both going to the same thing. And also because I think that I would feel more confident. \
Tell me 2 things that you admire or disgust about any of the characters in the chapter and why? The things that I don’t like about Elie is that he is not being strong enough to not give up also I think that he was smart to be separated from his father for the meanwhile until they makeup there 42 hour run.

Anonymous said...

1. In this section of night several very trying things happened that pushed Elie and the other Buna inmates to their limits. In the previous chapter the invading Red army has forced them to evacuate fearing death and his fathers well being Elie fled the hospital whit a wounded leg to join ranks with the other Buna block members who were all evacuating to Weitzs another concentration camp. They had to endure harsh terrain while running in their weakened state this proved to be a death march as several people were trampled by the herd or shot by SS officers just for stopping. After running 42 miles they were allowed to rest in an abandoned factory that was severely colapsed and probably of not much help from the elements. In the building Elie and his father decided to keep watch over the other so that they can make sure that their sleep doesn’t last for eternity. Also in the building two tragic endings were met one between the bond of a father and his son, the other the loss of a musical soul. The Rabbi was separated from his son during the rush, Elie thinks that the son left the father when he noticed that his time was approaching. He mutters a short prayer so that he may never abandon his father. He directly stated that he no longer believed in God so that prayer that he uttered to God was more of him wishing that he does not loose the shred of humanity that keeps him together with his father. The musical soul lost was one of the musicians that performed at Buna, he died in his sleep but not before giving a last performance to a dying crowed. After they started again they had some motivational words uttered from the SS so that they may make it to the end which Elie said that did help even though they came from the enemy. Arriving at the camp there was another selection that put Elie and his father at opposite lines, his dad with the weaklings and him with the acceptable people Elie rushed to his fathers line causing a commotion in which him and his father ended up on the correct line.
2. I admire the strength that they have to live on, the bonds of father and child that are not rattled in this place of great evil. It is all tragic but such harsh adversity that is seen in the book makes for a compelling read and stronger gratitude for the liberties that we enjoy as well as the freedom that we take for granted. The thing that disgust me most is the crulty that humanity can dish out and the possibility that it might happen again. All it takes is to have one sick ruler that can pursuade people to join him and share his view. This is what I assume that happened here one person one view, propaganda that set into the minds of other that caused more to join.
3. This is a tragic event and an example of the survivalist nature that has set into the minds of the prisoners because of the harsh conditions. The son of the Rabbi had one reason for leaving his father and that was to survive if his father fell before his eye could he go on or was it to not tie himself with is father, dead weight. This tragic scene could help Elie strengthen the bond that he has with his bother as he basically vows to himself that he will never abandon his father like The son of the Rabbi did to his. It also could also be merciful that god could spared the Rabbi the sight of his sons passing and give him hope that he is alive and in turn give the Rabbi a a will to keep going. Elie is also noticing his fathers age being ravaged by the treatment they have received at the Camp and the fact that the father has escaped death twice doesn't mean he will again each day he is aging more and the last time he escaped the cold grasp of death he should have died. He was put in the line of people who were on death’s row. He is dead and the fact that Elie continues to obey him and respect him is remarkable.

Anonymous said...

things that happened in this chapter is taht in this one part they comfort each other and try to keep each other awake so they will not die in their sleep. They get to the new camp, selection is being brought up. Elie’s father is sent to the left, to die. Elie starts a confusion and tries to go to the left so his father does not leave him. The dad told Ellie to go with him to this one shed, so they go and the boy falls asleep and his dad wakes him up and tells him he shouldn’t be sleeping in the snow because he might not wake up. They finally get to the new camp and on the way in the gates the boy falls on the floor and people start piling up on him and he can barely breath but he makes it out. The SS makes another selection and they sent the weak ones to the left and the ones ho can walk alright and still can work are sent to the right. They sent his dad to the left and the boy goes and runs after him. He confuses the SS soldiers And they tell him to come back and he brings his dad along with him and they both survive.
I admire the boy’s unselfishness when he doesn’t give up and die and thinks about his father. He knows his dad loves him and needs him. The person I got disgusted by was the rabbi’s son.

Anonymous said...

+ The Jew’s that were settled with Elie were moved to another area and basically had an opportunity to escape. They had to run for 42 miles without stopping or taking a break. If the SS officers sought any weakness it would mean that the Jew was good for crematory. The Jew’s in the concentration camp were forced to run the 42 miles with little or no clothing, no shoes, and an empty stomach. Sadly, the one’s who could not keep up with the standards were shot.

+ Two of the traits I admired the most is the Jew’s will to live and their continuous faith in their religion. Also, it took much courage and strength to stand up for what they believed in and never back down.

+ People always say one and when it actually comes down to it, they do another. I’ve learned that no matter what the situation is, no matter how many people say they have your back, you can only depend on yourself. Yes, it’s terribly sad that Rabbi Eliahou had to experience this with his son but taking into consideration the situation, it’s understandable. If my father and I were in this situation, I would’ve rather survived together or not at all. Simply because I would have to live with the guilt and I still wouldn’t be happy even if I was finally free.